Input: my parents aren't on Facebook on on Twitter aren't doing on posting yeah I don't want to see them but I guess my kid will be like why is my dad always been on social media his whole life it's like everyone at school knows everything about I share a video of my dad hitting the dab when he's 20. because because like you know I've have you seen like pictures of your parents and stuff like that when they were young yeah and stuff yeah I like that resource video of why do you your parents even look old in their younger pictures yeah yeah that's true I haven't seen that one well think about it like when you see pictures of your parents when they're young they look old still right they look old even when they're like 20. or when you look at pictures of like 19 what was like high school kids in the 70s they look old they look older for some reason than high school kids today and it's and yeah and it's this weird like cycle I mean obviously there's a resource video but like it's like weird psychological trick that happens of like because it's from an older time yeah you initially condition yourself to look at that and be like that is an older person yeah from before but they still look older because your only image of that is this thing is old well like also what I find would what I'm going to find interesting going forward is that um the world was just never as well documented as it is now don't they look older that's high school they don't they don't look like high schoolers right yeah like this dude I mean doesn't look like a high school I think I think it looks oh just because of the just because of the aesthetic right because you're not sure yeah but that's what I'm saying Okay okay then I get it because I I look back right I think back and I see photos like that and it just feels old because I can't imagine living in that time zone because you have like the [ __ ] serpia filter everyone looks same video you mean sorry it looks like it's going through like a sepia filter everyone looks different the haircut's different and I can't imagine it being in like 4K HD you know what I mean right like I I can't like I can't imagine looking around and being like oh this is what it looks like in normal colors in 4K HD and [ __ ] like that right right which is why when I see like have you ever seen like old videos that have been remastered with like modern colors yeah yeah it freaks me out so much right yeah it's like that um there's videos that where it's like some One filmed like Japan in like 1910 yes I've seen that and then they just it's 4K yeah recolored remastered it's cool and it freaks me out because I'm like people are freaked out like what the [ __ ] is that thing yeah there's that camera because you look at this video of like I think there's like one of like Kyoto in like the 1890s or something yeah and it's just weird to think like oh every single person in this video is not here anymore yeah and that's like terrifying it's so weird don't say that yeah it's so weird they're characters okay PCS history

Output:
- The speakers discussed how parents and high schoolers from the past appear older in photographs and videos due to aesthetic conditioning and historical context.
- They noted that modern filters and the lack of 4K HD documentation from previous eras contribute to the feeling that old media looks aged.
- The conversation shifted to the unsettling nature of seeing remastered videos of places like Japan from 1910 or Kyoto from the 1890s.
- The participants expressed fear regarding the realization that every single person in those remastered historical clips is no longer alive.
- They agreed that the contrast between modern colorization and the reality of the past creates a terrifying psychological effect.


Input: I've seen that and then they just it's 4K yeah recolored remastered it's cool and it freaks me out because I'm like people are freaked out like what the [ __ ] is that thing yeah there's that camera because you look at this video of like I think there's like one of like Kyoto in like the 1890s or something yeah and it's just weird to think like oh every single person in this video is not here anymore yeah and that's like terrifying it's so weird don't say that yeah it's so weird they're characters okay PCS history the whole NPC they're all NPCs everyone is a history mpz that only exists in the [ __ ] books okay yeah it's it's so like it's just so fascinating I had that thought with like World War II right like yeah growing up oh yeah you had like uh grandparents and stuff in here and then now it's slowly getting the point where like in a few years or you know in like 10 something years whatever it's like the there's gonna be so little World War II um survivors and within like 20 30 years there'll be no World War II yeah that's weird to think about yeah growing up you you'd always see them on like TV and they would talk about it and you're like this is like a thing yeah and then now there's nobody who remembers it nobody who was there yeah you can recount that time period yeah like this extremely important historical event when nobody was alive for it yeah like that's so weird going from having people alive to it to then not having people alive like especially in our time right because obviously we can speculate what the Romans were like and stuff but no one in our time knows anyone who was ever alive doing that you know what I mean like weird thinking that that's it's like and and it's like you know that's how that's there's always I always find that there's this disconnect with history right where you know it happens you you know that these people existed but they they also just kind of feels feel like characters in the book that's why it's also cool having this much documentation right because like I think the older the history is the more scarce options we have to figure out exactly right so we have to like fill in the pieces ourselves sure for sure but like what I find interesting is that I have this image of my parents when they were like younger right and you have like I have like stories that I've heard from like uncles and aunties and some old pictures but at the end of the day it's still just an image of what they were like I don't actually know what they were like you know um our kids are gonna [ __ ] like our kids are gonna have like every single like they're gonna have like every argument we've had about bone and chicken and like if if my kid doesn't like chicken wings he's gonna [ __ ] know why oh my dad how old is your how old is your grandma oh my grandma on my dad's side is around 97. okay okay this is a weird thing right your grandma that is 97 is like an age-wise was is closer to like the Victorian area than like today yeah from the moment she was born right isn't that weird to think that Victoria that

Output:
- The speakers discussed the eerie feeling of watching 4K remastered footage of Kyoto from the 1890s and realized that everyone in the video is no longer alive.
- They compared this realization to the approaching end of World War II survivors and the disconnect people feel regarding historical figures like the Romans.
- The conversation shifted to personal history, noting that while stories and photos exist of parents and grandparents, the actual reality of those people remains unknown to the next generation.
- One speaker mentioned their 97-year-old grandmother, pointing out the strange timeline where she was born closer to the Victorian era than to the present day.
- The group acknowledged that as history gets older, documentation becomes scarcer, forcing people to fill in the gaps themselves.
- They concluded by reflecting on how future generations will lack the ability to recount specific historical events directly from those who experienced them.


Input: have like every single like they're gonna have like every argument we've had about bone and chicken and like if if my kid doesn't like chicken wings he's gonna [ __ ] know why oh my dad how old is your how old is your grandma oh my grandma on my dad's side is around 97. okay okay this is a weird thing right your grandma that is 97 is like an age-wise was is closer to like the Victorian area than like today yeah from the moment she was born right isn't that weird to think that Victoria that we think of that really quirky time like [ __ ] weird where they were doing weird [ __ ] they were playing like asbestos in their wallpaper yeah and everything it's like you know it's just weird to think there are people who are alive today who are old who are closer to these really far off periods in history that we think is far off because we're born now yeah we think 150 years ago that's crazy you know what I mean yeah um like also there was a great video where it was like a like 1960s or 50s this woman who was like 90 and she was recounting stories of the Victorian period because obviously at that time it was still you know it was still around yeah right yeah weird it's just so strange geez that's yeah there's videos of these people talking about those times so strange yeah and it's weird like you know going back to like ancient history is weird to think we can't we can't really process in in our minds just how old like ancient Egypt was you know yeah because you get to a point in history and you think oh it's all like around the same period it's all like Roman Roman history Greek history ancient you know ancient Egyptian history so it's all the same because it's all history but like it's isn't it like the ancient Egyptians were as all to the Romans as the Romans are to us yeah something along those like that like some great civilization make it feel like it's all one blur yeah when you actually look at the time between you like whoa yeah I think yeah because I think I saw something similar whereas like it was a lot like that but like say with like the dinosaurs right of like I think it's something like in our heads we think like Tyrannosaurus Rex and stegosaurus are just like yeah they were around the same time like it's it's you know it's all during the dinosaur era yeah but in actuality I think between the stegosaurus and the Tyrannosaurus Rex there's like 400 million years oh no we're uh humanity is a [ __ ] footnote compared to how long the dinosaurs yeah the world but it's just so crazy to think that it's like yeah they're the same thing they're around the same time and it's just not even like we like to think that we're better like huh look at these dumb animals they got wiped out by [ __ ] media bro we've like hardly we've barely lived the amount of like we have been we live have lived a fraction of the time they have Ruled the Earth yeah and then all it took was like one [ __ ] day and they're like gone you know it's it's because they didn't get along we wiped out more of us than anyone else all right watching

Output:
- The speakers discussed the surprising age of a 97-year-old grandmother, noting she was born during the Victorian era.
- They reflected on how historical periods like Ancient Egypt, Rome, and Greece often feel like a single blur despite the vast time separating them.
- The conversation shifted to dinosaurs, highlighting the misconception that Tyrannosaurus Rex and Stegosaurus lived at the same time.
- It was revealed that there was actually a 400 million-year gap between those two dinosaur species.
- The group concluded that humanity is a tiny footnote compared to the time dinosaurs ruled the Earth.
- They lamented that human civilization wiped out the dinosaurs in a single day, contrasting it with the long reign of the prehistoric animals.


Input: thing they're around the same time and it's just not even like we like to think that we're better like huh look at these dumb animals they got wiped out by [ __ ] media bro we've like hardly we've barely lived the amount of like we have been we live have lived a fraction of the time they have Ruled the Earth yeah and then all it took was like one [ __ ] day and they're like gone you know it's it's because they didn't get along we wiped out more of us than anyone else all right no meteor can take that away from yeah that's we killed way more of us than that [ __ ] dumb meteor ever would have all right there's just four flexing on the meteorite we are the best at killing us yeah without now no one is better than us that's why I was smart just to [ __ ] kid however if the ants decided to have an uprising we would be [ __ ] oh absolutely absolutely if the answer decided they have had enough of being in the ground if the insect world decided to start a coup d'etat one day like they can overtake us in a day well that just that just [ __ ] remind me do you know something weird I've been doing in the holidays are you collecting ants um I haven't been collecting thank God I would have been this is I do not want to get it I'm not mailing don't worry about that I've been I've been reading a book like in 2023 like like a book book like wow words like not not even like a light novel like a heavy like no pictures like no pictures wow it's just a heavy novel so yeah I've been reading this uh sci-fi uh sci-fi novel called Children of Time you ever heard of this book it's I but maybe you have maybe you haven't I don't know I just uh I I um I know you haven't you don't read I hear what people talking about oh okay oh my God what are those funny things yeah I mean it's I've heard of a book before you know those it's it's like read about a book yeah it's a fascinating read uh because I I heard something I heard something about the book that kind of like piqued my curiosity uh because it explores the idea of like what what aliens actually are and what's Evolution actually is right so uh the premise the premise of this book right is Humanity at the beginning of Like A Flat Earth a conspiracy theory yeah what is evolution let's break it down let's pray let's break it down so it it poses this question so it's the book is set in like the Far Far Future where humanity is like an advanced race or something like that and there's this one person who just goes let's let's do an epic experiment um let's try and give monkeys these virus this virus that speeds up Evolution put them on a planet and see what happens okay and then I one day and then eventually when they become as smart as us I will come down and be their new Gods right okay um but unfortunately sorry Connor the the plan goes wrong all the monkeys dies uh but what happens instead is that spiders instead get infected by this virus all right that just kind of like just speeds up evolution watching

Output:
- The speakers discussed the dominance of humanity over other species, noting that humans caused more extinction than a meteor event.
- They expressed fear regarding a potential uprising by insects, specifically ants, if the insect world decided to stage a coup.
- One speaker mentioned they were reading a heavy sci-fi novel called "Children of Time" during the holidays instead of a light novel.
- The conversation shifted to the book's premise, which involves a future experiment to speed up evolution using a virus on monkeys.
- The speaker explained that the plan failed because the monkeys died, but spiders were instead infected and accelerated in evolution.
- The group agreed that the book explores deep questions about aliens and the nature of evolution in a far-future setting.


Input: one person who just goes let's let's do an epic experiment um let's try and give monkeys these virus this virus that speeds up Evolution put them on a planet and see what happens okay and then I one day and then eventually when they become as smart as us I will come down and be their new Gods right okay um but unfortunately sorry Connor the the plan goes wrong all the monkeys dies uh but what happens instead is that spiders instead get infected by this virus all right that just kind of like just speeds up evolution and um and uh speeds up Evolution and knowledge basically like that um so what happens is it follows why spiders man that's like the worst people to get events but that's that's why spiders because when we think of what is alien to us like what is more alien to us and un understandable than spiders and it's fascinating to think for one it may like it cemented the realization that if aliens exist there's no way we'd be able to communicate with them or like or like have any resemblance to us whatsoever um because it really like it it follows this spider civilization that emerges from like I guess their Stone Age to their Modern Age right and it shows how different basically everything in their civilization would be um from like human civilization um just based on what spiders are so like a great example is it of this is like Midway through the book slight spoilers but it's only like a small scene Midway through the book uh one of the advanced humans crash land on this planet right um and the spiders kind of like they they take they they take this human in and they start studying this human um and they come to the conclusion that humans must be dumb man because there's no there's no way that spot that there's no way that it can communicate right um because spite of the way spiders communicate is they don't have ears they communicate through vibrations yeah so they form this communication system with vibrations through their webs to communicate complex ideas to each other and there's humans who's this human who is barking voice like Sound Vibrations to them they're like nah there's there's no way any animal would use sound as a vibration like medium that's that's dumb why would people do that yeah and there's no way that any animal would any animal would evolve um an orifice that they use to communicate and also ingest food that just seems sub-optimal why would any why would I know any animals do that and the spiders come to the conclusion that humans are these uh dumb animals that have not like reached Evolution everything like that and it's just there's so much about this book that like opens your mind and like makes you rethink what is it about like our society and our civilization that as that is based on us basically coming from monkeys and everything like that so basically if ants do like decides do an uprising it's probably going to be a different kind of Uprising than anything that we can imagine and everything like that I don't know like I think it's easy to think that Evolution just stops because you're like everything I get it now I understand how every animal is and how we are but watching

Output:
- The speaker described an experiment where monkeys were infected with a virus to speed up evolution, but the plan failed and the monkeys died.
- Instead, spiders became infected, leading to a civilization that evolved from a Stone Age to a Modern Age with vastly different societal structures.
- A scene was recounted where advanced humans crash-landed on the planet and were studied by the spiders.
- The spiders concluded that humans were unintelligent because they communicated through sound rather than vibrations, which the spiders found illogical.
- The speaker reflected on how this book challenges human assumptions about society and evolution, suggesting that other species like ants would have different uprisings.
- The summary concluded with the speaker noting that evolution does not stop and that humans understand other animals only through their own limited perspective.


Input: makes you rethink what is it about like our society and our civilization that as that is based on us basically coming from monkeys and everything like that so basically if ants do like decides do an uprising it's probably going to be a different kind of uprising than anything that we can imagine and everything like that I don't know like I think it's easy to think that Evolution just stops because you're like everything I get it now I understand how every animal is and how we are but obviously it's kept it's been going on for millions of years and it'll probably keep on going yeah people will get like tails I'll be sick we might grow another arm who knows who knows where humanity is going to be in like millions and millions of years if we live as long as if we live as long as the dinosaurs that would be pretty interesting I'd like to think the spiders are watching me and they're like what is he doing it's just me watching like Dave this must be a complicated human ritual watching thank you yeah it's just like that Meme where it's just like you know people look back on the memes and they try to study like low cap images or something this must have been some ancient religious text or something like that do you think that actually happened with like the Angels yeah yeah yeah yeah we've I swear they've been studying cases where we thought it was something we were so wrong multiple times because obviously you get more information and you you know the world's become more connected and it's you know a lot of information that we had in English was based off like wrong accounts and all also resources that weren't really great and so now we can we can translate and stuff so it's much better yeah not that we're doing right now could you imagine if like some archaeologist was just like stunning like ancient Egyptian like hieroglyphs it can be like oh we we still haven't like uncovered what this meaningful message must be because they left it on this wall and then you you know you go back 4 000 years and this suggestion is just like I said what are these strange golden like M Signs they've put everywhere yeah they seem to be there must be the cult of M they should be in every place in Mass it's been some ancient religion yeah a really crucial part to the human's existence you know what I mean we found sir we found more golden M's lying around what could it mean there's so many of them what could it mean there's so many in this one continent in America there seems to be a density of these oh my god oh man it's uh yeah it would be interesting to think it's like a sick book though they should make that into an anime they're not okay honestly it's like if you if if you like me kind of sounds like terraformers but less anime because like the terraformers if it was smart yeah it's terraformers if like there's there's so many interesting ideas like eventually the spiders um learn how to make computers but they learn how to make computers via programming like ad programming like programming ants off this which I'm just like I never thought

Output:
- The speakers discussed the concept of evolution continuing indefinitely, imagining scenarios where ants might revolt or humans might evolve new traits like arms over millions of years.
- One speaker joked about spiders observing human rituals and compared memes to ancient religious texts that future archaeologists might misunderstand.
- The conversation shifted to the reliability of historical information, noting that many English accounts were based on wrong resources but are now being corrected.
- An imaginary scenario was created where archaeologists discover "M Signs" in ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs, leading to a conspiracy theory about a "Cult of M" in America.
- The group compared this hypothetical story to the anime "Terraformers" and speculated about spiders eventually learning to program computers by coding ants.


Input: interesting to think it's like a sick book though they should make that into an anime they're not okay honestly it's like if you if if you like me kind of sounds like terraformers but less anime because like the terraformers if it was smart yeah it's terraformers if it like there's there's so many interesting ideas like eventually the spiders um learn how to make computers but they learn how to make computers via programming like ad programming like programming ants off this which I'm just like I never thought about it like that but if you could learn to program ants via because ants ants have like a real ants have a set of programming right it's you think about a normal Ant and the stupid as but somehow ant colonies if you study ant colonies they're able to do some incredible things dumb individuals smart together we should make ant AI or would it be real intelligence no AI stands for ant intelligence dude when the ants see what we did to them they're gonna be pissed they see all these tick tocks people owning them bro it's over dude it's over oh my God it's like I'm sorry Malin this uh she's the person like all the pesticides right they already evolve to kind of be Beyond it and we're constantly chasing the next one yeah we'll get to the point where using this pesticide is just not feasible because it's so dangerous to us yeah uh well if you think about it so many like modern inventions and everything are based on nature itself because Nature has figured out how to do this yeah man yeah so they're trying to make like this smart machines like Engineering Systems where they're based on like uh real life structures because like a like where they try and make uh these like kind of RC planes that are based more off like Wing structure like birds yeah yeah exactly yeah obviously over Evolution they've evolved a way that works best yeah because because one day some dude looked up to this guy saw a bird flying and went I won't do that no it's like how do you like that's how it started yeah makes you wonder like how would you how would you would planes be any different today if Birds just didn't exist right so we just don't have that framework if they just wasn't an animal yeah it's the way that like a plane works is very different well I guess well they have wings right well yeah I mean it's like I guess what part of engineering you care about I mean because it's like we just stuck a explosion on there because we couldn't figure out how to do it in a way yeah it works the way that they do it so we had we had a strap jet fuel that it burns you know what I mean but like the Wright brothers didn't have that right they they steam I think no is it steam oh no diesel no it was diesel sorry of course it was pretty in diesel engine yeah Kai look it up yeah it's probably a diesel engine right we're getting to the point of trash days where we're just kind of like spewing over the bed because it was like it was like they had the a compact and lightweight enough system watching

Output:
* The speakers discussed the concept of an anime adaptation for a sick book and compared its themes to the terraformers, noting the intelligence of ant colonies.
* Malin was mentioned regarding the evolution of pests to become immune to pesticides, leading to a discussion on engineering systems based on nature.
* The conversation shifted to bird-inspired engineering, specifically RC planes, and how the Wright brothers utilized diesel engines rather than steam.
* Kai was prompted to look up historical details about the engine types used in early aviation.
* The group concluded by analyzing the compact and lightweight nature of those early systems compared to modern jet fuel applications.


Input: we had a strap jet fuel that it burns you know what I mean but like the Wright brothers didn't have that right they they steam I think no is it steam oh no diesel no it was diesel sorry of course it was pretty in diesel engine yeah Kai look it up yeah it's probably a diesel engine right we're getting to the point of trash days where we're just kind of like spewing over the bed because it was like it was like they had the a compact and lightweight enough system that could that made it so you could power that right and all you need to do is make an aerofoil which is basically just something that just catches the most drag yeah um and then you just power It Forward all right all right yeah you know small explosions all the way yeah Humanity since the beginning boom that's that's all that's all we love everything they saw an explosion they saw momentum and they went what if we just attached that to something you that's how you want to make a lightweight system now it is getting closer and closer in a sense to either either the the amount of power we can generate or the size of electricity needs to improve a lot or you kind of get it closer to I suppose you can get it's like a bird wing and you can maybe get it more perfect in the sense there yeah but it depends what you want to do because Birds can't like uh Birds a lot of the time coach flap in place right like if you want a drone yeah stop birds don't do that I mean besides but hummingbirds do yeah right but then how do you how do you like generate that yeah certain dragonflies and stuff yeah dragonflies are the best flyers in like nature holy like I sometimes I see a dragonfly fly maneuver and it's insane yeah yeah you just reminded me like I mean they made mid-flight yeah I'm like that's hippie like it literally now that I think about I remember as a kid thinking like dragonfly flights patterns look like they're pre-programmed yeah yeah he literally like that's incredible yeah I guess yeah depending on what kind of plane you'd want to make but what it would need to do you'd pick the aerofoil right on the face I guess you could there's nothing saying you couldn't make a dragonfly-esque system I think you just need it all to be balanced and you need a way to power that much force yeah also that'd be a lot of G's I think if you're whipping around that fast yeah yeah don't don't dragonflies go through like the the most IG force or something animals going from static to room yeah yeah that's a lot that's a lot yeah no we're not good at that well obviously because we've got legs and we're heavy dragonflies are light of yeah but also often a lot of times like birds and like like um a lot of the times their skulls kind of evolve to do certain things like um woodpeckers they just wrap their tongue around their brain to absorb it you know that are you serious your tongue wraps around their brain that's right I'm trying to Google this that's crazy if you like got

Output:
- The speakers discussed the Wright brothers' use of diesel engines versus steam and the challenges of creating compact, lightweight power systems.
- They explored the concept of aerofoils and how humanity historically utilized small explosions to generate momentum for flight.
- The conversation shifted to comparing human flight capabilities with birds and insects, specifically highlighting the superior maneuvering of dragonflies and hummingbirds.
- One speaker recalled childhood observations about dragonfly flight patterns looking pre-programmed, while the other noted the immense G-forces involved in such rapid movements.
- The group analyzed biological adaptations for shock absorption, citing woodpeckers wrapping their tongues around their brains as a prime example.
- They concluded that while humans are heavy and struggle with rapid acceleration, insects like dragonflies are incredibly light and capable of feats animals cannot match.


Input: lot yeah no we're not good at that well obviously because we've got legs and we're heavy dragonflies are light of yeah but also often a lot of times like birds and like like um a lot of the times their skulls kind of evolve to do certain things like um woodpeckers they just wrap their tongue around their brain to absorb it you know that are you serious your tongue wraps around their brain that's right I'm trying to Google this that's crazy if you like got into a car crash and you're just like hold on I'm Gonna Save myself from getting an aneurysm that legit yeah look at this look at the diagram the the tongue wraps around the brain oh that's epic like give some kind of cushion to their brain because like like they just like nature just up hentai like concept you know what I mean that's what is that okay okay explain that concept to me let's break down watching tell me that or something tell me the plot what's the plot oh awesome yeah that's something new man hey I can't call for that uh we up Humanity we've trained an AI to like come up with with brain with brain wrapped tonguing brain wrapped oh my God yeah maybe she's thinking of all different types of planes now it makes me wonder how how did how did the invention of like the helicopter how did that get like dude that's actually a sick history uh because the guy who made it is a psychopath he just was like you have to be like I look like helicopter he was like determined to die like if you look at the history of like the models of how I made it I swear one of the dudes who was trying to make it was like actually insane yeah like it crashed so many times right but he just kept trying to make more because he was like dead set on it there's also like a genius invention really yeah yeah I mean I I mean I I don't I I fully believe that because I look at a helicopter and you're just like that shouldn't fly I like I don't know what I'm talking about we're living in a simulation I always thought helicopters were way cooler than planes I was a helicopter gang all the way wait how was team helicopter I do not have this like you just you just like when I saw like a battle helicopter I think that's just purely based on the fact that like like you don't see you don't see helicopters as often as planes yeah sure and all the helicopters you see are kind of lame they're all kind of like you know normal ones but they're actually the ones with guns like whoa something in your boy brain you're like oh that's cool I think it's also just the like the idea of the helicopter let's let's spin this thing so kind of fast that we could fly as a kid I'm just like yo I'll just fly but stain yeah just just stay in the air yeah planes you're just like it's got a engine to like making her pew pew pew I don't care thank you

Output:
* The speakers discussed how woodpeckers evolved to wrap their tongues around their brains for protection during impacts.
* One speaker expressed amazement at this biological concept and compared it to the safety mechanisms needed in car crashes.
* The conversation shifted to the history of helicopter invention, noting that the creator was a determined psychopath who kept building despite repeated crashes.
* The group debated the perceived coolness of helicopters versus planes, with one speaker admitting they were a "helicopter gang" member.
* They observed that people often find helicopters cooler because they are less common and the military versions with guns are impressive.
* The discussion concluded with the speakers comparing the mechanics of flight, noting that planes rely on engines to make sounds while helicopters are imagined to just spin fast to fly.


Input: they're all kind of like you know normal ones but they're actually the ones with guns like whoa something in your boy brain you're like oh that's cool I think it's also just the like the idea of the helicopter let's let's spin this thing so [ __ ] kind of fast that we could fly as a kid I'm just like yo I'll just fly but stain yeah just just stay in the air yeah planes you're just like it's got a [ __ ] engine to like making her pew pew pew I don't [ __ ] care about that let's try spinning some [ __ ] blades to get you up in the air that's metal as [ __ ] man yeah you know that's badass yeah which makes all the more funny when have you seen those videos where you see like the helicopter like taking off but like the frame rate of the camera shutter speed yeah so it just looks like it's staying still someone just turned ground yeah it just looks like it's suspended in the air and just like going up the first person to discover that is a genius it's like a [ __ ] Looney Tunes walk you through the camera and they're like what the [ __ ] well I mean uh I mean it happens a lot natural like so when we're filming now right like obviously uh a lot of light flickers yeah you know you're in Japan I don't know which side you're on it's either flickering 50 times a second or or 60. yeah right obviously it's not actually like fully going on off but it's you know and sometimes on camera you set the hurts um if you set the shutter speed to the wrong thing or yeah you have it on maybe a different anti-flicker mode yeah you'll see it like the waves yeah appearing on them so sometimes you can even actually seeing like flickering slips yeah you see it pretty [ __ ] bad I've got a lot of video footage where it's happened and you're like God damn it's [ __ ] unusable yeah it's [ __ ] flickering yeah well there's a there's a lot of that you know the human sensors can't take in there's so many like spectrums of light and everything like that I imagine if you could see [ __ ] infrared and that's [ __ ] sick like I love the um you know the mantis shrimp yeah I [ __ ] love that that thing's cool it's one of my favorite things that's one of my favorite animals of all time yeah that's the stories of it busting glass because it's just it like it like boils the air yeah yeah it literally creates almost like a nuclear explosion from how fast it moves in terms of in Terms like the heat and pressure it creates it's just like boom it's like a sonic boom basically yeah it's Sonic moves yeah it's kind of crazy that like fish could evolve to that I wish we [ __ ] evolved to that yeah I'm just like yeah I look at the mantis shrimp and I'm just like [ __ ] we go wrong yeah wait wait where the [ __ ] did we go wrong you know because like how One shrimp one shrimp in history saw a clam and thought the only the most optimal way to get inside this clam is punching the [ __ ] out of it I'm like that's

Output:
- The speakers discussed the mechanics of helicopters and planes, noting how spinning blades could lift a vehicle into the air and comparing the sound to "pew pew."
- They analyzed a visual phenomenon where helicopters appear suspended in the air due to camera shutter speeds matching the frame rate, likening the effect to Looney Tunes.
- The conversation shifted to light flickering issues, specifically mentioning 50 or 60 hertz frequencies in Japan and how incorrect shutter settings create visible waves in footage.
- The participants expressed fascination with the mantis shrimp, describing its ability to boil air and create sonic booms by punching clams.
- They concluded by wondering why humans hadn't evolved similar capabilities, marveling at the shrimp's optimal method for breaking into clams.


Input: sonic boom basically yeah it's Sonic moves yeah it's kind of crazy that like fish could evolve to that I wish we uh evolved to that yeah I'm just like yeah I look at the mantis shrimp and I'm just like we go wrong yeah wait wait where the did we go wrong you know because like how One shrimp one shrimp in history saw a clam and thought the only the most optimal way to get inside this clam is punching the out of it I'm like that's isn't it crazy on paper if I asked you can't yeah do you want intelligence or do you want an arm that can boil air you'd be like I I would like the arm that boils yeah I would like to see every color please there's more colors I'm I can't see and then then these little shrimp but they'll just on the ocean floor yeah and we're the ones who evolved well isn't that dumb because when I'm playing I feel about this when I'm playing d d I'm like I'm like man obviously I'm gonna spec into like Wizardry or like Charisma I never put anything in intelligence because they always get it no they always get it wrong in video games intelligence should be way more op in video games yeah this is humanity is what happens when you try to balance out all the skill points we just average on everything compared to the Animal Kingdom we put all of our stats into intelligence yeah we can't even appreciate that yeah we're not intelligent enough to appreciate that at all right all the points in intelligence and the ability to throw things that's pretty much everything we did yeah yeah we're pretty good at running well I mean compared to like a cheetah well that's the thing a lot of animals like opposable thumbs that's pretty op yeah a lot of animals can't run like marathons oh that's true we can run for pretty long I mean I can't I didn't get that some of us some of us are pretty beautiful I'll let them do it I'm I'm I expect into the intelligence trees all right all right sorry I don't want me do you know humans have a no way of sensing wetness no I heard that oh I saw this we just know there's like we can tell the temperature different though yeah yeah I saw that yeah I found that really interesting because I'm like how many other things can't I sense but I can just sense like sense a bad take when you have it guys that's another thing you can't say it's a dark thought before we haven't built those receptors yet I I can sense whether a fart is gonna smell or not very far that's really yeah I think I'm pretty confident I I like you're like test it better what's your Source I I made it the I feel like I just know I just know when a father's gonna smell okay this is this is something in my my bow tells me do you feel like you can tell if someone's looking at you yes yes why why why do we feel like we can tell like I've had I've had points where I've been like asleep or just like napping or something and I'm like

Output:
* The speakers discussed the evolutionary traits of the mantis shrimp and Sonic, questioning why humans didn't evolve similarly powerful physical attributes.
* They analyzed video game mechanics, specifically criticizing how "intelligence" stats are often undervalued compared to physical stats in RPGs like D&D.
* The conversation shifted to human physical limitations, noting that while humans can run long distances, many other animals possess superior traits like opposable thumbs.
* One speaker claimed humans lack a specific receptor for sensing wetness but can intuitively sense bad social situations or foul odors.
* The group debated the phenomenon of feeling someone's gaze, with one person recounting instances of sensing attention while sleeping or napping.
* They concluded that humanity has allocated too many evolutionary "skill points" to intelligence, leaving us lacking in other appreciable physical areas.


Input:
not very far that's really yeah I think I'm pretty confident I I like you're like test it better what's your Source I I made it the [ __ ] I feel like I just know I just know when a father's gonna smell okay this is this is something in my my bow tells me
uh do you feel like you can tell if someone's looking at you yes yes why why why do we feel like we can tell like I've had I've had points where I've been like asleep or just like napping or something and I'm like someone's looking at me I look up and someone is I think going wait who is that someone okay well that's okay that's [ __ ] first of all I think that's just coincidence I think we take a note to like again I think we saw some previous episodes um we're like again with extremely socially focused animals yeah and so I think that's like an evolutionary trait that's kind of been like malfunctioned a little bit where we don't I guess we kind of still need it but we don't need to be as socially accepted as we once needed to yeah so we were very attentive to anything social for the most part so I think when when people are staring at us we're really apparent of it and we're really bad at even like thinking Scott just staring at me like I feel like God was just staring at me right yeah yeah I feel like you're just looking at my direction I saw in the corner of my mouth overthink it yeah we can kind of sense if like someone is Feeling Again a certain way or like if a situation is uncommon that's my [ __ ] theory that could be totally wrong I'm pretty sure that's where it comes from is that we're very very in tune with being socially yeah I mean like you want to know if you ask any other animal it's like uh so can you tell if that prawn is feeling then they'll be like no I can't give a [ __ ] what does that mean why would you why would you need to sense that God dogs are [ __ ] cute though I wonder if a dog knows a dog knows I'm staring at it a dog noise I mean it always knows it always like a dog can always tell like when when when when you're like giving it some attention you could be on the other side my dog used to do that when it was just like kind of just sitting there just like staring off into Blank Space sometimes I would just you know look at my dog because I'm like you're a good boy you're a pretty boy and then sometimes the dog would just kind of do this like walk over at me like what what do you want every every time you know like I'm I'm torn right in my head and whether I think God exists because I'm like okay God makes stuff that that kills children and I'm like that's pretty [ __ ] out yeah but then we also have videos like dogs cuddling people who are sad and I'm like well how do you explain that you know why the dog evolved to know when we're sad and it helps us that's pretty I feel like somebody must have helped that out come on yeah we don't we don't deserve it you know look

Output:
- The speakers discussed the evolutionary theory behind humans sensing when they are being stared at, suggesting it is a malfunctioning social trait.
- One speaker recalled personal experiences of waking up to find someone staring at them, which they attributed to coincidence.
- The conversation shifted to animal behavior, specifically wondering if dogs can sense when they are being watched or if their owners are sad.
- A speaker described their own dog staring into space and then approaching them when they offered praise, illustrating the dog's awareness.
- The group debated the existence of God, contrasting the idea of a deity creating harmful things with the observation of dogs comforting sad humans.
- They concluded that dogs seem to have evolved to sense human sadness, leading to a feeling that humans do not deserve such help.


Input: every every time you know like I'm I'm torn right in my head and whether I think God exists because I'm like okay God makes stuff that that kills children and I'm like that's pretty [ __ ] out yeah but then we also have videos like dogs cuddling people who are sad and I'm like well how do you explain that you know why the dog evolved to know when we're sad and it helps us that's pretty I feel like somebody must have helped that out come on yeah we don't we don't deserve it you know look what we've done in history do we really deserve that we don't maybe we should not think of God as this omnipotent meaning that knows everything maybe if there is a God in this world they can make mistakes um and I'm just saying dog like when they created the dog that was like I this is the biggest W of my [ __ ] life this is the only reason why we accept NTR because dogs exist I think we'd all be done I think they would have been that would have been the final straw there needs to be an equal evil to create an equal Doctor Who has bought this omnipotent power so much time yeah frankly you know and I I I and people who are allergic they got done dirty yeah but they came alive yeah and then [ __ ] like God was listening to [ __ ] Metallica one day and I was like [ __ ] mantis shrimp man I'm gonna make one of those let's [ __ ] do it there's some whack [ __ ] that has been like evolutionized so you're like that that is interesting the Mantis trip is certainly one of them yeah like this feels like the most over engineered Evolution to a problem right like right when you think about it you're like this feels like respect far too much for no reason it's it's like I look at the mantrum though the reason I love the mantis shrimp is I don't think it's the most optimal way to achieve what you want to achieve which is get food yeah but I respect the fact that you committed so hard to this one solution yeah like you look at you know an animal like a highly intelligent animal like an octopus right that is like all right you know it can problem solve it can like you know figure out more intelligent ways to catch its prey like camouflage or like tricking its prey meanwhile mantis room is like I punch hard I destroyed I like the fact that for some reason obviously it makes sense evolutionary wise but just owls could just [ __ ] turn their head mostly all the way around yeah yeah that feels like the owl was kind of been a little lazy all right I'm not gonna lie I feel like the owl could have maybe just turned around a little bit just all right you know it's like no I'm not moving my body you really need to turn up like if I could turn my head all the way around do I really need that I feel like it I don't know man to be honest if someone asked me hey would you want the ability to very much a shower thought yeah would you want the ability to turn your head almost 360 degrees Yeah I'd be like I don't know when I'd use it but thank you

Output:
- The speakers debated the existence of God, contrasting instances of cruelty with the comforting presence of dogs.
- They concluded that God might be capable of mistakes rather than being purely omnipotent.
- The conversation shifted to evolutionary strategies, specifically comparing the Mantis shrimp to the octopus.
- The speakers admired the Mantis shrimp's brute force approach while criticizing the octopus's intelligence as a contrast.
- They also analyzed the owl's ability to rotate its head, joking that it was an unnecessary evolutionary "lazy" solution.
- Finally, the group pondered a hypothetical scenario about humans possessing the ability to turn their heads 360 degrees.


Input: feel like the owl could have maybe just turned around a little bit just all right you know it's like no I'm not moving my body you really need to turn up like if I could turn my head all the way around do I really need that I feel like it I don't know man to be honest if someone asked me hey would you want the ability to very much a shower thought yeah would you want the ability to turn your head almost 360 degrees Yeah I'd be like I don't know when I'd use it but sure well why not what I want to know is you know we we talk about like animals and food chain and even if you don't like an animal or something we love talking animals yeah we love animals animals are sick um having said that is there a single redeeming quality of a mosquito or can we remove mosquitoes and I'm sure something will be effective there'll be no adverse effects at all I think I remember seeing like some videos about that of like some like experts argue that we can but with like a little bit of a of a deficit to the food chain and then there are others that say like no it's just completely if we've learned anything we are really [ __ ] bad at getting involved with the [ __ ] and trying to control nature we've been we've historically have a terrible tracker yeah yeah um yeah which is pretty bad in it kind of the sentiment um we shouldn't do it we're just like what if we just make this animal extinct it won't it won't [ __ ] up the food chain right the animal Kingdom's like what are you doing stop I know they're delicious very precisely and you're [ __ ] it up I just want to know if there's any anything any animal anything that has something positive to say about mosquitoes well do animals hate mosquitoes problem so I'm sure even spiders like I mean I eat them but I can go without it flies too flies you know I I can live without mosquitoes you know I don't know hard to say man is there anything cooler than a mantis shrimp I don't think so I'm I'm a Google is now coolest animals well there's that there's that video of the guy who was like out fishing in a canoe and he like fit he accidentally fished up a mantis shrimp and it like it quickly like flicked him in the in the toe like just like oh yeah he broke it and it broke his top yeah I almost saw that and he's like he's like and then he like releases it back in and like his foot is bleeding and then later on he's like I I'm in the hospital because uh my toe is broken I'm like what the [ __ ] it's pretty [ __ ] wild yeah that's wild God I think I think I've evolved to just drink tea it's just it's just British isn't it I was on the plane back uh from my Christmas break and I swear to God it was embarrassing the amount of tea I drank I just kept asking for more tea and they were like and they came around and they were like T I was like yes bring it I think I drank like 15 Cups of Tea holy [ __ ] isn't that insane why is that because I watching thank you

Output:
* The speaker discussed the hypothetical ability to turn their head 360 degrees and questioned if mosquitoes have any redeeming qualities.
* They noted that experts argue removing mosquitoes could harm the food chain and highlighted humanity's historical failure to control nature.
* The conversation shifted to the mantis shrimp, describing a video where a fisherman accidentally caught one and broke his toe.
* The speaker recalled the fisherman releasing the creature and ending up in the hospital due to the injury.
* Finally, the speaker recounted an embarrassing incident on a plane during a Christmas break where they drank an excessive amount of tea.


Input: it's pretty wild yeah that's wild God I think I think I've evolved to just drink tea it's just it's just British isn't it I was on the plane back uh from my Christmas break and I swear to God it was embarrassing the amount of tea I drank I just kept asking for more tea and they were like and they came around and they were like T I was like yes bring it I think I drank like 15 Cups of Tea holy damn isn't that insane why is that because I was just I was thirsting for some hot liquid it's what I like all right honestly ever since moving to Japan I drink far too much green tea I don't know can you drink too much green tea because I'm definitely drinking it's got caffeine you actually can drink too much tea um there's some like uh there's a few chemicals in it that are pretty bad if you drink it like all the time all day um but like anything that's like that right if you ate just damn ham yeah sure just lettuce you'd have no nothing else right everything in moderation generally yeah oh yeah I'm just like how much tea is like too much tea you know um I'm definitely surpassing it I'm pretty sure um but that's a problem for future me yeah I feel like I'm in the now you know I'm I'm trying to worry about that that's that's that's the video you should make five years from now being like the tea didn't kill you sorry about that you know how it is you should film it while you're sipping a cup of tea it's like I bet you're mad yeah that's that's like that's like a fault in like human evolution we are so we are so inadequate in try with like we can process problems that will happen in our future but we're so inadequate and caring about it you know like yep that's why global warming has been yeah right I was just about to say like climate change activism like first time yeah like hey your body is going to deteriorate if you don't exercise and keep healthy every day and you know eat good and you're like yeah but one more hamburger right one more Burger literally every person who smokes cigarettes is just like yeah I know but that's that's future me to decide I'm I'm enjoying it right that it takes so much energy just to like care about it and change your life for the better it just it just yeah some something's wrong with the brain the creatures of habits man when we get in a habit we it's hard for us to kick lately we didn't put enough points into intelligence we've programmed our brain to work in the best way it can and it's got a lot of flaws yeah yeah right I mean I did program I'm damn lazy someone else did that I don't know it's weird we're pretty dumb though that's one thing I do you think you think you think we are I think we're pretty damn dumb we're all some pretty damn dumb Apes just floating through a rock through space Apes have a good they stopped at the right time Evolution wise I think they're they're chilling oh I have a great time well they get to have all the you know that orangutang or to

Output:
* The speakers discussed the excessive amount of tea they consumed while traveling on a plane and after moving to Japan.
* One speaker noted that drinking too much green tea could be harmful due to caffeine and other chemicals, though they admitted to surpassing safe limits.
* They analyzed human evolution, concluding that people are inadequate at worrying about future consequences like climate change or health deterioration.
* The conversation highlighted how humans prioritize immediate enjoyment, such as eating hamburgers or smoking, over long-term well-being.
* The speakers joked that they are "dumb Apes" who stopped evolving at the right time because they cannot process future problems effectively.


Input: yeah yeah right I mean I did program I'm uh lazy someone else did that I don't know it's weird we're pretty dumb though that's one thing I do think you think we are I think we're pretty uh dumb we're all some pretty uh dumb Apes just floating through a rock through space Apes have a good they stopped at the right time Evolution wise I think they're they're chilling oh I have a great time well they get to have all the you know that orangutang or to drive that golf cart in that one video and he didn't have to get a license you know you didn't have to go to the DMV I think he got the best part of evolution which is like sit back relax eat bananas chill out they can get to drive a golf cart dude I'm just jealous they get to flick their turds without any repercussions man like I wish that's my doctor we should have stopped at dogs dogs I'm just I I don't think we evolved we don't we didn't evolve from it doesn't matter evolutionary world of dogs at dogs man the Council of dogs is this nothing more pure than just a dog I think a dog if the world was only dogs would dogs be friendly to each other I don't think they would yeah maybe the reason why dogs ended up evolving is wholesome and awesome as they did is because of the filthy human dogs just agree we tampered and it worked for once that was when it was we did a massive W for once what about cats they do they they already own the world let's pull the strings from those Shadows can't live in their world yeah what do you mean it's since the beginning of the Egyptian age we've worshiped uh cats yeah I wonder what it is about cats that we just we can't help but just gravitate towards since ancient times Humanity has not changed they're cute cats could be like the biggest uh uh in the world and humans are like I uh love you and I would die for you and they are completely right cats cats are literally the same humans do that to other humans you're a giant piece of uh but I love you like cats are basically the cigarettes of the animal wall they're just like I know this thing is absolutely horrible but God damn I can't stop I can't stop I I uh I was at Ludwig's house I got to stroke uh Coots and that was a very cute kiss I thought that sentence I did get to do that too I was lying down and then Coots would just jump on me and he would just want you know a good cuddling I thought all right yeah okay I'll allow it I've allowed you to exist we uh we have this uh we have this cat in my house in England uh yeah I remember yeah that's not our cat it's our neighbor's cats oh okay but it's really our cat okay it's a Street's cat we don't know what her name is uh for some reason Sydney's Sydney uh named her Scarlett Joe and then that name just stuck because whenever she shouts it the cat just comes running so I don't know what your cat's name is uh sorry uh Mrs neighbor but uh it's

Output:
- The speakers discussed the evolutionary status of apes and dogs, suggesting humans didn't evolve from dogs and that a world of dogs might not be friendly.
- They compared cats to cigarettes, describing them as harmful yet addictive, and noted humanity's ancient worship of cats in Egypt.
- One speaker recalled visiting Ludwig's house and cuddling with a cat named Coots.
- Another speaker mentioned a street cat in their England house that was named Scarlett Joe by Sydney, despite not being their own pet.
- The group acknowledged the cat's name stuck because the animal runs to the name whenever shouted.


Input: okay I'll allow it I've allowed you to exist we uh we have this uh we have this cat in my house in England uh yeah I remember yeah that's not our cat it's our neighbor's cats oh okay but it's really our cat okay it's a Street's cat we don't know what her name is uh for some reason Sydney's Sydney uh named her Scarlet Joe and then that name just stuck because whenever she shouts it the cat just comes running so I don't know what your cat's name is uh sorry uh Mrs neighbor but uh it's Scarlet Joe now um and this is appropriators in there yeah this she she she's too [ __ ] smart man because she knows okay here's the thing right we we're we're simple creatures we just want to give them pets yeah give them love right they they're cats we just want to give them pets and give them love um Scarlet Joe knows the exact right amount of pets that she's willing to give before like saying no no more pets you're not allowed anymore right and then and then she knows that we [ __ ] crave it so like anytime anytime anytime we look like we're like you know a bit more disinterested than usual she goes now have a pet and we're like [ __ ] are you are you giving me a pet and she get and she just lets us pet her and she goes all right enough I'm like [ __ ] I want to pay you more now I want to bet you more dude she is in full control [ __ ] I I'm not the the worst thing is I know she is but I can't stop it okay okay if she if she wants pets I'm going to give it to her and God [ __ ] damn it like it's just I'm telling you man like two cute animals are just like they just get the pass she's an evil [ __ ] being that's that's she's evil man she she's a manipulative evil [ __ ] being I believe it and you know what but I love her I'm this close to [ __ ] abducting her from our neighbors man who needs to she was coming to you yes yeah exactly she is when when she knows when when uh when we haven't been uh when we've come back from like a long trip from like Japan or something like that the first day every first day she's always like so loving so everything we feel loved we feel like we're back over then every other day after that she just goes back to normal all right you've had your time now I'm just gonna I'm just gonna sit here and just judge you I don't want to give you too much sir yeah yeah no no more serotonin for you sir oh man what was your cat like when you grew up because you yeah I had a few cats um a few yeah wow yeah we had well when I was born we had two um but like my my parents had three the whole time uh Pocky and little guy um it was it was weird because it's like when you have two cats living in the same house it you really see the personality differences right right because like when you just see a cat by itself it's like okay you know you can discern maybe some like personality traits of the watching

Output:
- The speaker discussed a neighbor's cat named Scarlet Joe, which was originally named by a person named Sydney, and described the cat as being highly manipulative and smart.
- The speaker explained that the cat controls the interaction by only allowing pets when the owners appear disinterested, creating a cycle of craving and affection.
- The speaker expressed a desire to abduct the cat from the neighbors, noting that the cat only shows extreme affection after the owners return from trips like one to Japan.
- The speaker mentioned having owned cats named Pocky and a little guy during their childhood, alongside their parents' cats.
- The conversation shifted to analyzing personality differences between cats when multiple animals live in the same household versus alone.


Input: your cat like when you grew up because you yeah I had a few cats um a few yeah wow yeah we had well when I was born we had two um but like my my parents had three the whole time uh Pocky and little guy um it was it was weird because it's like when you have two cats living in the same house it you really see the personality differences right right because like when you just see a cat by itself it's like okay you know you can discern maybe some like personality traits of the cat right the different cats that you know but like when it's two cats next to each other it really is like night and day yeah uh so like I think like I mean I don't remember a whole lot because I was really young but like I remember like little guy was definitely the in the family um he would he would do this thing where like I don't know if you had like memory problems or whatever but like we would feed him right and then literally 30 minutes later he'd come back and be like where the my food I do that meowing at my dad yeah and my dad's like I've just fed you leave me the alone and he just be like no I'm still hungry give me my food meanwhile Pokey is like out on The Veranda just being like thank you for the meal father that was absolutely delicious I'm going to saw some of this stuff bro let me uh you can pet me now you can come and pay me I'm full I'm satisfied come here though me all little guys just being like I'm still hungry give me my food where is it and it's just I don't know like I I loved both cats equally for like different things but it's just like it really does just show like how these animals just have like really just distinct personalities and it's like and it's dope you know like you know like even like when we had we used to have like a lot of birds as well right like my parents currently owned like a cockatiel right now and like compared to the last cockatiel we had this one is a million times more of an but it's like but it's forgivable because it's cute and the couple of times that it falls asleep in your hand it's like you know what all the bite marks you gave me over the years I think I've always wondered about birds why don't they just fly away watching

Output:
- The speaker recalled having two cats, Pocky and Little Guy, when they were young.
- Little Guy was described as demanding and would repeatedly ask for food shortly after being fed.
- In contrast, Pocky was portrayed as polite and satisfied, often staying on the veranda.
- The speaker also mentioned their parents owning a cockatiel that was aggressive but forgivable due to its cuteness.
- The conversation highlighted the distinct and contrasting personalities of the different animals in the household.
- The speaker expressed a lingering curiosity about why birds do not simply fly away despite the issues they caused.


Input:
Sydney, I don't need to see a doctor. I don't need to see a doctor. Why would I need to see doctor? It's only a 40 degree fever. Google says I need to be 41 to go see a doctor, Sydney. Come on. Come on. I aint a pussy boy. I aint a pussy boy.
Thank you. It's true though. In Japan, people are like that, that's why, I think. From what I heard, uh, people are like, "I've got a headache. I'm going to the clinic." What? What? No, no, no. You'll be fine. I don't know. Just sleep it off. I don't know. Maybe I'm being too harsh, but then, do you ever find that sometimes you're like, I don't know if this is me thing, but sometimes I'm getting sick, I'm like, "No. Stop, body. Stop. Stop, right now."
Uh, watching. What? Did you develop Nen? I think I might have, I don't know if this is just me being stupid but I just completely ignore it. When I'm about to get sick, I'm like, "We are not sick. We will continue with our day like everything is normal."
That just sounds like copium to the max. Sometimes I feel like it works, though. I don't know. I don't know if it's just pure luck or it's, It's probably my own stupidity. Sometimes I get ill, I feel the illness coming, and then, in my mind, I feel like this is a deciding point. In my he'd I'm like, "Am I going to resign myself to being ill?, or am I going to be like, "No, I'm not ill. I'm going to continue on. I'm going to eat healthy, I'm going to do it."
I don't know. This sound like some Joe Rogan-esque shit I'm saying right now. I don't know. For small illnesses. Obviously, if you've got some kind of horrible illness, it's like, "Yeah, no- - The flu is controlled by the government. - No amount of mind power is, "Well, you know, it's like a placebo effect." This shit is completely nonsense. We are not medical professionals. - We're going to say this right now, we are not medical professionals. - This is a joke. - It's not a joke. See? I'm sorry. I inject horse urine into my veins, Joey. I don't know. When it's a tiny illness, when it's a sore throat, something like that, sometimes I feel like, how much of your mental, Mental willpower can affect it because you hear about the placebo effect affecting how you can perform in certain situations. I'm wondering, how much can that affect your likeliness to get sick?
I mean, I do feel like you're, Okay. This is going to be complete speculation bullshit. This is all anecdotal. Any medical professional would be laughing at us right now. This is completely anecdotal but I do feel like your mentality and your willingness to, I don't know, accept something, I feel like it does play some kind of conscious affect. Because you hear, You hear about stories about people who have a deadly illness and because they have the will to fight it, some people are able to fight through the illness, and some people are more inclined to give in. So I do feel, based on zero, zero fucking scientific proof, and just based on total anecdotal evidence, that there is some kind of effect that your mentality has towards illnesses, sometimes. Not every time. People, I'm not saying everyone who

Output:
*   The speaker argued with Sydney about not needing to see a doctor despite having a 40-degree fever, citing Google's guidelines and a desire to appear tough.
*   They discussed cultural differences in healthcare, specifically mentioning Japan, and described a personal habit of mentally commanding their body to stop getting sick.
*   The conversation shifted to whether the speaker had developed Nen, with them admitting they might have ignored their symptoms to continue their day.
*   Joey was mentioned as someone who injects horse urine, and the group debated the placebo effect and whether mental willpower could influence illness outcomes.
*   Both participants agreed they were not medical professionals and that their theories were based entirely on anecdotal evidence rather than scientific proof.


Input: to, I don't know, accept something, I feel like it does play some kind of conscious affect. Because you hear, You hear about stories about people who have a deadly illness and because they have the will to fight it, some people are able to fight through the illness, and some people are more inclined to give in. So I do feel, based on zero, zero fucking scientific proof, and just based on total anecdotal evidence, that there is some kind of effect that your mentality has towards illnesses, sometimes. Not every time. uh... People, I'm not saying everyone who died from cancer being like, You obviously didn't try the fucking, You obviously didn't try hard enough - You didn't want it enough. - You didn't fight it hard enough. - You just have to get good. - Cancer is just the, "Dark Souls" of illnesses, guys. Come on. You just got to get good, man. uh... You just got to get good. I'm not trying to say that. - That's why I'm saying it's with little things. With colds and stuff. I feel like when I'm way more up for being like, "Fuck you. I'm going to just continue with my day, mentally." I don't know why. - It's not like you do anything to actually prevent it. It's not like you take a fucking, You eat honey or whatever. - I go out of my way to not take anything. I never take pain killers. I hate taking them. - To me, taking pain killers is the point where I admit defeat and I am actually ill. Do you know what I mean? Even this time, when I could feel my body getting ill, I was like, "No. It's not it. I'm not ill." I'm not going to go out, obviously because it's a pandemic, but I'm going to keep working. I'm going to go by my daily schedule, and I woke up and I'm like, "38. That's a manageable fever. I'll get tested. Come back. " - I don't know. 38's pretty fucking high. To me it was manageable until, I remember sitting at my PC on the first day that the symptoms started rolling in. Obviously, at this time, I didn't get any of the test results, so I had no idea, It could've been a cold for all I knew. I remember sitting down at the computer, trying to work, and it was just, as the day went on, I was like, "No, body. Don't do this. You're not ill. You're not ill. Come on, body. You can power through this." And I remember, it was around five o'clock, where I was staring at the script, and I was trying to get shit done, no words would come out because I was just too tired. I was like, "Okay. I'm absolutely fucking ill. Let me take some fucking medicine. Let me take my temperature again. Let me do the fucking- - I can just imagine you sitting at your computer and just (imitates Garnt) (Garnt laughing) It's like, "Oh, God." - Sometimes you're like, "Shit. My willpower wasn't enough to beat this minor cold. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Shit. - Who would've thought. - It's just a perception, man. It's a perception. - It seemed that, I don't know, painkillers and stuff like that, I have friends who, They'll take a painkiller the moment they even get a slight headache. But I'm always really worried because then they, the same people, this is completely anecdotal, They're just like, "Oh, yeah. It doesn't watching

Output:
- The speaker argued that mental willpower might influence a person's ability to fight illnesses, citing anecdotal evidence rather than scientific proof.
- They compared cancer to the video game "Dark Souls," suggesting that one must "get good" to survive, though they clarified this applies more to minor colds.
- The speaker described their personal refusal to take painkillers, viewing them as an admission of defeat rather than a medical necessity.
- They recounted a specific instance where they tried to power through a fever of 38 degrees while working at their PC, ignoring symptoms until exhaustion set in around 5 o'clock.
- Upon failing to work due to illness, the speaker admitted defeat and prepared to take medicine, a moment they humorously compared to a character named Garnt struggling at a computer.
- The conversation concluded with the speaker noting that while they avoid painkillers, they worry about friends who take them at the first sign of a headache.


Input: just imagine you sitting at your computer and just uh imitates Garnt Garnt laughing It's like Oh God uh sometimes you're like Shit my willpower wasn't enough to beat this minor cold yeah yeah shit who would've thought it's just a perception man it's a perception uh seemed that I don't know painkillers and stuff like that I have friends who they'll take a painkiller the moment they even get a slight headache but I'm always really worried because then they the same people this is completely anecdotal they're just like Oh yeah it doesn't work as well anymore because I take it too often thank you and I'm like well that's scary I'm not going to take it unless I'm really in pain and then I'll be like all right fine I'll take a paracetamol or something watching because what happens if they get say a really massive headache or worse still where it's like Oh God if you don't have pain medicine you're just fucked you might faint you might pass out whatever man I always worry about stuff like that I think the only scary thing for me was because I'd never gotten COVID before normally when I get an illness I've been ill enough times to know how my body deals with it like okay I'm going to be out for X amount of days I need to do this I've got this down to a science I wake up with what's the throat itis tonsillitis or something which has happened a few times I'm just like okay I'm going to be conked out for two days I'm not going to be able to speak for three four days and then afterwards I'll be completely fine but when I tested positive I'm just like fuck I've never done this before so this is all new territory for me man how's my body going to react to it I've got asthma is that going to play an effect I'm just like it wasn't like I didn't have a bad time it was more of just the unknown that scared me the most yeah that's way scarier because it was something it was something completely new that I had never experienced before so I had no prior knowledge about how I should best deal with it or how my body was going to deal with it luckily it was fine thank you second thing that I shit myself over was everyone saying that you might lose your sense of taste I'm just like you know what I think I'd rather go to hospital than lose my sense of taste honestly what do you mean with the bread take you surely did I think a lot of people would argue you already did you sure you haven't gotten COVID I think you should've gotten COVID for the best Trash Taste recording in years half of these food takes I don't think you have any taste buds to kill the first thing that I did when I tested positive was obviously I needed to inform Meilyne to inform GeeXPlus and everyone in the office that I tested positive and the first thing she messages me about is oh I've heard that COVID might change your taste buds so maybe you'll be able to taste bread now I'm just like fuck you Meilyne watching roasted this is not what I wanted to hear when I tested positive okay were you hungry at all did you have an appetite it wasn't

Output:
- The speaker described their fear regarding the unknown effects of COVID-19, specifically worrying about their asthma and the lack of prior experience with the illness.
- They expressed a strong preference to avoid losing their sense of taste, even over hospitalization, and joked about their "Trash Taste" recording abilities.
- Upon testing positive, the speaker immediately informed their colleagues, including Meilyne and GeeXPlus.
- Meilyne responded to the news by jokingly suggesting the speaker might be able to taste bread better now due to taste bud changes.
- The speaker reacted with annoyance to Meilyne's message, stating it was not the response they wanted to hear during their illness.
- The conversation concluded with the speaker being asked about their appetite and hunger levels during the infection.


Input: you have any taste buds to kill. The first thing that I did when I tested positive was, obviously I needed to inform Meilyne, to inform GeeXPlus and everyone in the office that I tested positive, and the first thing she messages me about is, "Oh, I've heard that COVID might change your taste buds, so maybe you'll be able to taste bread now. I'm just like, "Fuck you, Meilyne." - Roasted - This is not what I wanted to hear when I tested positive, okay? - Were you hungry at all? Did you have an appetite? - It wasn't exactly the same, Okay. Here's the thing I hate about being fucking ill, is that it's, I didn't lose my sense of taste, it was just the same affect to your taste that you have with any illness, which just, for some reason, everything just tastes shit. Everything just tastes bland. - Man, I get super hungry when I get sick. - Yeah. I remember- - That's so weird. - Remember when you got ill the few weeks before, when you got tonsillitis, you just ate a fuck ton. And, to me, I can't eat at all - Nah. Me neither. - when I'm ill. I just don't eat. - It should mean my stomach is okay. I have any other illness, I'll just eat a lot. I don't know why. - For me, when I'm sick, just the smell of food is like, "Urg." For me. - Do you remember that one time I got food poisoning? I got food poisoning this one time, and then the next day, while I was still dying, I got so hungry. Felt like McDonald's. So I ordered a fuck ton of McDonald's and I ate all of it. Weirdly, I felt a lot better. I don't know why. I feel like I'm the only person on earth who binged McDonald's and then felt better. - Because usually that's the thing that gives you food poisoning. - Yeah. That's exactly right. You'd think eating McDonald's after having food poisoning is a bold choice. It was really weird. - You're really doubling down. - Okay. Actually, the one time I do regret doing this. This one time I was really sick, again, I think, with food poisoning, the next day, I know everyone is going to laugh, I decided to get Indian curry. That was actually a mistake. - What? Why? - Why would you do that? - I was really craving butter curry. I don't know why. - I crave a lot of good food when I'm ill as well, but I've had it enough times that you regret it immediately once you take the first bite. That was the only time I regretted it. Other times I've gotten it and I feel better. I don't know if it's, in my mind, I'm like, "Yeah." Maybe my body's like, "Oh, shit. We've got another problem to deal with. Let's deal with that." And then everything just gets better. I don't know. I don't know. It's a load of shit, really. - Your brain works one step at time. - I mean, it should be. I don't know. It's all weird. I feel like no one really understands their body. We're all just guessing. We're all just doing, We're like plague doctors tying to figure out our thing, with our own weird rituals. I think we all just have a thing that we feel comfortable with, and somehow it works. - Well, we've sorted it. We've been ill enough times to know how our

Output:
- The speaker recounted informing Meilyne and GeeXPlus after testing positive for COVID, receiving a sarcastic message about tasting bread.
- They discussed how illness affected their appetite, noting that while they usually feel hungry when sick, they could not eat at all during this specific illness.
- One speaker shared a story of recovering from food poisoning by binge-eating McDonald's, which unexpectedly made them feel better.
- In contrast, another speaker admitted that eating Indian curry while sick with food poisoning was a mistake that caused regret.
- The group concluded that everyone uses their own weird rituals to deal with illness, even if the science behind them isn't fully understood.


Input:
then everything just gets better. I don't know. I don't know. It's a load of shit, really. thank you.
Your brain works one step at time. uh, I mean, it should be. I don't know. It's all weird. I feel like no one really understands their body. We're all just guessing. We're all just doing, watching. We're like plague doctors tying to figure out our thing, with our own weird rituals. I think we all just have a thing that we feel comfortable with, and somehow it works.
Well, we've sorted it. We've been ill enough times to know how our body reacts to certain things, and to deal with certain things. Everyone bodies is different.
Yeah. I'll sit there and laugh at all these plage doctors from the 18th century, and then I'll just be like, "I'm going to will power my disease away." It's only, really, Have we changed at all? I don't think so. I think we've just gotten smarter while keeping the stupid.
You know what will fix my sore stomach? McDonald's.
Dude, exactly. That's what I'm saying.
Before COVID, how often did you guys get sick per year?
Once a year.
Once a year?
Are we counting food poisoning because I feel like, food poisoning, to me-
You seems to get food poisoning a lot.
Food poisoning, to me, I don't count as getting sick.
No. That's definitely sick.
That is illness. That is illness.
Hear me out. Hear me out. Hear me out. Because it's like if I poisoned Garnt, you wouldn't be like, "Oh, Garnt got sick." You'd be like, Garnt was poisoned. It's a different kind of vibe. It's just sickness. It's not like something you treat. It's like, "You got food poisoning? "Yeah. "You're fucked" You're fucked. Just deal with it. I don't know.
What?
What? Wait, do you know what food poisoning is?
Yes.
It's not like someone slipped cyanide into your McDonald's.
No, I know. I know. But it's like, It's not caused by a natural cause of sickness or a bacterial or virus. It's like something went wrong and fucked up.
No. No.
No. It is.
It is. It is - It is.
No, I know. I know. But it's not like you got it by accident or something. You know what I mean? Like you stumbled across it. Something had to go wrong of it to be there.
No, I think it's by accident.
Yeah.
No. No No.
You wouldn't know if something's wrong with the food unless you try it.
No, I know. That's why I'm saying I don't count that as the natural quote of getting sick. Because, let's say you undercook chicken and there's salmonella in it, that's fucked. You're done.
Yeah. But that's not the fault of the person who undercooked the chicken, that's the fault of the salmonella-
Well, that is why you cook the chicken.
Which is the disease that comes naturally.
Yeah. But that's not something you come across naturally. That's not something you would normally come across.
What do you mean by "come across"? Do you mean just on the street. Be like, "Oh, there's salmonella."
It takes something carried. Garnt is carrying a normal, I don't know, cold or whatever. It's a different category in my mind. I don't know.
Well, not every raw piece of chicken has salmonella, but there is

Output:
- The group discussed how humans intuitively manage their bodies through rituals, comparing themselves to historical plague doctors.
- One speaker argued that food poisoning should not be counted as a natural illness, suggesting it is a result of human error rather than a natural cause.
- Garnt was brought up as an example to illustrate the difference between being poisoned and simply getting sick.
- The conversation shifted to the nature of salmonella in undercooked chicken, with the group debating whether the fault lies with the cook or the bacteria.
- The participants struggled to agree on whether diseases like salmonella are "natural" or accidental occurrences.
- The discussion ended without a clear consensus on the categorization of food-borne illnesses.


Input: that's the fault of the salmonella- - Well, that is why you cook the chicken. - Which is the disease that comes naturally. - Yeah. But that's not something you come across naturally. That's not something you would normally come across. - What do you mean by "come across"? Do you mean just on the street. Be like, "Oh, there's salmonella." - It takes something carried. Garnt is carrying a normal, I don't know, cold or whatever. It's a different category in my mind. I don't know. - Well, not every raw piece of chicken has salmonella, but there is a chance that if you have a raw piece of chicken and it's not cooked, then the salmonella, or the bacteria - That's why we have steps to- - will not be killed. In the same way that if you go outside and someone has COVID or the flu or something, and you stand next to them and they cough, and then you inhale their particles, - You have a chance of getting it. - then you have the chance of getting it. - It's all right. In my mind, I just put it differently, I guess. Uh, because food poisoning is normally just due to the lack, Of somebody fucking up. - You mean lack of- - Like undercooking and stuff? - Yeah. Yeah. Undercooking and stuff like that. Or bad meat. Bad storage. - Not all the time, though. It's just sometimes - Not all the time. - it might just be like a rogue- - Well, like E.coli and shit. Yeah. That's a big fuck up. - Sometimes it's jus a matter of like, "Oh, there was a piece of food there, and just, unfortunately, just a rogue disease or virus just happened to fucking stumble upon it. - Well, I mean, - And then you inhale it. - it's different though. Because then we- - Are you saying that food poisoning is more preventable? - Yeah. Way more preventable. But that's why you can be, Your restaurant can be shut down if you keep giving people food poisoning. The majority of the time, something like food poisoning is due to somebody fucking up in the chain of, Because we have these steps. - So, basically, the most times we get ill is when someone has fucked up and given you food poisoning. Or you fucked up and given yourself food poisoning. - Mainly me. I look at it and I'm like, "Aah. Fuck it.", and then I eat it. Uh, watching. And then I shouldn't have. - So that's why you don't count it as getting it ill because it's on you. It's on you. - If I just walked pass someone in the street who was ill, I don't count that as the same thing. I don't know. - I'm understanding this mentality now. - It's not an illness, it's a self-own. - I don't know. It seem different in my head. - I don't know about you, I count food poisoning as an illness. - Really? - I do count food poisoning as an illness. - But then again, I don't get sick often, but I think I've only ever gotten food poisoning twice in my life. - I didn't get it much till I came to Japan. I've had it many times in Japan, weirdly. - Really? - Yeah. Like four, three times. - I've never gotten food poisoning in Japan. - Yeah. I've never gotten food poisoning in Japan, I've got it, the worst food poisoning I've gotten was in

Output:
- The speakers debated the classification of food poisoning versus infectious diseases like COVID and the flu.
- Garnt and another participant discussed how food poisoning is often caused by human error, such as undercooking or bad storage.
- One speaker argued that food poisoning is a "self-own" if it results from their own decision to eat unsafe food.
- The conversation shifted to personal experiences, with one speaker noting they had contracted food poisoning multiple times in Japan.
- Another speaker mentioned they had never gotten food poisoning in Japan, despite the other's frequent encounters.
- The group concluded that while food poisoning can be an illness, they personally viewed it differently based on the circumstances.


Input: I don't know about you, I count food poisoning as an illness. Really? I do count food poisoning as an illness. But then again, I don't get sick often, but I think I've only ever gotten food poisoning twice in my life. I didn't get it much till I came to Japan. I've had it many times in Japan, weirdly. Really? Yeah. Like four, three times. I've never gotten food poisoning in Japan. Yeah. I've never gotten food poisoning in Japan, I've got it, the worst food poisoning I've gotten was in China. Also sometimes in Thailand as well. I think. Yeah. I got really bad food poisoning in the Philippines. Yeah. I think. But I think food poisoning in South-East Asia is just part of the experience, right? Yeah? Yeah. Yeah? Exactly. It's - Street food. Preventable. Street food. No. No. In South-East Asia it is not preventable. That shit is everywhere. Yeah. It's good the lights worked out. When I went back to it, I was like, "Damn." I never knew you could food poisoning from a mango but I definitely got it from a mango. That shit fucked me up, dude. I swear to God, every time Sydney has oysters she gets fucking food poisoning, and every fucking time she's like, "Maybe this I won't. Maybe this time." It's so weird. You hear every now and then there's those foods that's like, "Yeah. Food poisoning central." Oysters being one of them. It's just poor storage. I've never gotten it from oysters. It's so weird. You've probably only eaten oysters here in Japan, right? No. No. Everywhere. Really? Yeah. I had it in the US, Australia. Everywhere. And I've never gotten it. It's a gamble in the UK. Really? Yeah. It's very much a gamble in the UK. And, I think, a lot of places in the US as well. Because it depends how well they store it, or how fresh it is. It's human error. See? This is why I don't count it the same, in my head. If somebody sneezes at me in public, I'm like, "It can't be helped." Or "Whatever. Whatever" Face mask. If somebody forgot to fucking freeze a piece of fish, then serve it to me, someone fucked up and made me sick. Wait. How is someone sneezing on you not a human error? Well, no. You get it, Let's say you're in a plane, someone four seats behind you sneezes, whatever, they didn't react quick enough. I feel like that's not, I can't possibly- They didn't react quick enough? I couldn't then go to court and be like, "This person sneezed on the plain behind me and didn't cover up their face." I feel like you can't hold someone accountable. Whereas, let's say somebody just didn't store a piece of fish properly, that's negligence on their part, and then they served it to you. Yeah. I get that. That's why I don't treat it the same. I don't treat it the same either but it's still an illness. Regardless if it can be helped, or it cant be helped, it's still an illness. That's why I feel like, Because it's not a way to- Okay. Would you count cancer as an illness then? You don't get cancer from eating fish. No. No No. What I'm

Output:
* The group discussed whether food poisoning counts as an illness, with some participants citing experiences in Japan, China, Thailand, and the Philippines.
* One speaker mentioned getting severe food poisoning from a mango and noted that Sydney frequently gets sick from oysters.
* The conversation shifted to the preventability of food poisoning in South-East Asia versus the US and UK, attributing it to storage issues and human error.
* A debate arose regarding human error, distinguishing between negligence in food handling and the inability to hold someone accountable for sneezing in public.
* The participants concluded that regardless of whether the illness was preventable or caused by negligence, it remains an illness.
* The discussion ended with a clarification that cancer is not caused by eating fish, though the transcript cuts off before the final point was fully made.


Input: somebody just didn't store a piece of fish properly, that's negligence on their part, and then they served it to you. Yeah, uh, I get that. That's why I don't treat it the same. I don't treat it the same either but it's still an illness. Regardless if it can be helped, or it cant be helped, it's still an illness. That's why I feel like, Because it's not a way to. Okay. Would you count cancer as an illness then? You don't get cancer from eating fish. No. No No. What I'm saying is, is you treat it completely differently but it's still an illness. Yeah. But that's something you can just get. That's just different. Most of the time, uh, lung cancer? Yeah, yeah. What if you smoke enough, that's, technically, human error. Yeah. But that's on you. That's on you. (laughing) So then in that case, it wouldn't be an illness, according to you. But even then, stuff like that, it's like it only raises your chances, whereas if somebody just gives you, flat out, a completely fucked up piece of fish or meat that has been stored improperly, you're going to get sick 100%. Whereas there are people who've been chain smoking from age 10 till 100 who don't get it. So it's complete luck on that part. But with the storage, food and all that, that's like, "All right. Somebody fucked up." You know what I mean? That's categorically, someone just fucked up and they gave it to you, and poisoned you. That's what it is. It's different to getting an illness. It's totally different. Doctors in the comments are cracking up right now. I bet. on this conversation. I actually wanna know what people think about this. I feel like I'm not the only one who thinks this way towards food poisoning. This is not a weird thing. It's just you getting ill. That's just it. But if you ask me how often do I get ill, I wouldn't count that because that's got nothing to do with. It's an illness. No, it's not. You're literally sick. If I were to just make myself vomit, would you say that I've gotten an illness? No. Well then why would food poisoning count towards that.? Because it's a literal disease. But that's got no comment to how often you get ill, that's how often you eat bad shit. No. Yeah. It's entirely different. No. I mean, it all depends on your environment, but obviously if you are in an environment, where a lot of people are ill or are going through a wave of illness, then you're more like to get ill. In the same way, if you live in an environment, where people are less careful with their food preparation, then you're more like to get ill. That is a thing. If you go to South-East Asia or a lot of places where the food standards aren't as high, It's true. It's true. Yeah. No, it's true. I'm not throwing shade, I'm just saying facts here. Okay, guys? I'm saying facts here. You go to a fucking street vendor on the street, your just like, "How was this meat prepared? Where did this meat come from?" They don't fucking know. From the back of my truck. Exactly. Exactly. I mean, it's all risk. It's all risk at the end.

Output:
* The speakers debated whether food poisoning caused by improper storage should be classified as an illness compared to naturally occurring diseases like cancer.
* One speaker argued that food poisoning is a result of human error and negligence, whereas cancer is often a matter of luck or personal choices like smoking.
* They discussed how environmental factors, such as visiting South-East Asia or buying from street vendors, increase the risk of illness due to lower food standards.
* The conversation included a humorous observation that doctors in the comments were cracking up at the discussion.
* The participants agreed that while getting ill is a fact, the context of "bad shit" consumption makes it distinct from other types of illness.
* The dialogue concluded by emphasizing that food safety is entirely a matter of risk depending on the preparation environment.